Once upon a time, FOSS enthusiasts were so concerned about Microsoft, that they recommended everyone use GMail and Google Apps.

Today the same crowd hates Google, so they recommend $SERVICE instead...

As long as $SERVICE is a provider in the cloud, on somebody else's computer, I'm shaking my head.

Many of the things being recommended are even more proprietary and locked-down than Google's stuff is!

Fighting monopolies is good. But don't lie to yourself that this helps software freedom.

@HerraBRE unless you own your own platform you're going to have the same issues everywhere. That's why I'm not rushing out to sign up for any third party anything. Deliberately going slow so I can find the right self-hosted solutions.

@CrowderSoup It's hard work!

Are you aware of yunohost.org ?

They're trying to make it easier. I haven't used their stuff myself, but I love what they're trying to do.

In some cases, like e-mail, self hosting is almost impossible due to spam filters making everything awful. In such cases, owning your domain and using a standards compliant provider are the best you can hope for, freedom-wise.

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@HerraBRE @CrowderSoup the thing is, the average user wont want to eat the maintenance cost (time) of running an email server.

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@chuck @CrowderSoup Pssh. Don't call it a server. Servers are scary. It's just their p2p messaging app!

But e-mail is particularly bad, as I said. Special kind of awful.

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